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TJR: The Raw Deal for 02/08/10 (DX/Showmiz/SES)

Live from Lafayette, Louisiana this is the Raw Deal…

We get the typical video packages to start and then the guest host, NASCAR driver Carl Edwards, comes out doing donuts before driving into the arena. But no, it’s Hornswoggle! What a swerve. Edwards walked down to the ring with the Bella Arm Candies. Kelly Kelly introduced him. Remember the time when she introduced Maryse as “Maurice?” Great memories. At least she’s really thin, has a nice ass and smiles a lot, right? That’s what counts. Edwards had more energy than Busch and Logano, the previous driver hosts that bombed, so he immediately came off as a decent host. He kissed the Saints ass since they were in Louisiana (thanks for costing me money, Colts) and the crowd liked him for that. He namedropped being friends with Cena, so that led to Sheamus coming out. Sheamus wanted Edwards to make him the last competitor in the Elimination Chamber match. Isn’t that a random thing complete with eerie music and a spotlight? Don’t take the fun out of the eerie music!

I thought Cena was coming out here, but instead it was somebody different for Raw, my boy Christian – the ECW champ. “Christian! Christian! At last you’re on your own!” Wait, wrong song. It’s that stupid “Go!” song. Oh well. At least he got a nice pop coming out. I liked the joke he busted out on Sheamus saying he spent all his money on the hair and the beard trimmer, but must have ran out when it came to working on his tan. Good line. He mentioned that with ECW closing down that he’d be a free agent. I should point out that I wrote this a few times, suggesting it as a way to move people to other shows, and I’m glad it happened. He said they have a lot in common in that they were both champs and both born without last names. Clever. The end result here was that Edwards brought in a ref to make the match happen.

Sheamus d. Christian (**)
It was pretty obvious who was going over here, so the result isn’t much of a surprise. Good to see a match get nine minutes on Raw because that’s such a rare thing. I’ve always been a fan of Christian, but I think I like him more as a babyface now because he has better matches in that role. He’s really good at selling as well as making his comebacks. I like the whole “clap your hands” routine he does. He went for the Killswitch, Sheamus countered, chucked him into the post, hit the dreaded kick and finished him off with the Razor’s Edge that they didn’t call the Celtic Cross this week because I guess they remembered that’s the name of Finlay’s finisher. The match was pretty good. Sheamus winning makes sense. He continues to look really strong heading into the Elimination Chamber match, which is what you want from your champion.

I would be absolutely fine with Christian on Raw. He’s got a strong personality while also being able to have good matches with everybody. I’d rather see him on Smackdown, though, just to see the interaction with the likes of Edge and Jericho. Keep the Canadians together!

Backstage, we had the weekly DX chat. No sign of Hornswoggle, which is great. They’re in the serious WrestleMania zone now. Basically Shawn’s cranky because he didn’t make the Rumble or get in the Chamber match while Hunter says he’s going to win the WWE title. Shawn bitches about Hunter thinking it’s all about him now and walks off in a huff. I’ve had similar discussions with ex-girlfriends. You go girl. I mean Shawn.

We saw the same footage they showed on Smackdown from last week’s Raw where Batista attacked Cena and gave him a Batista Bomb onto the ring steps.

Backstage, we had the weekly Legacy chat. Orton basically said he was pissed off that Cody cost him the title at the Rumble, so Cody’s against Orton tonight. Dibiase gets Cena. Oh no you didn’t. Yes he did.

My boy CM Punk along with Luke Gallows and the lovely Serena (no Canton on her last name, she’s for my buddy David K.) came out for the tag title match. Punk said he wanted to save somebody, a celebrity. Who is it? Jared the Subway guy. Is there a worse celebrity than him? Why is he famous? I’ll never get it. The best line was when Punk said, “Go get me Jared from Subway.” What was sad here is that it was clear Jerry Lawler never watches Smackdown or has any idea what Punk does when he “saves” people. He reacted to it like it’s some new thing. Way to stay on top of programming, King. Of course nothing happened because the DX music started to play. By the way, if you want to know why WWE is PG, look at the huge Subway plug. They probably couldn’t get Subway as a sponsor if they’re TV14. It’s a money thing, people.

The Miz & Big Show d. DX & Punk/Gallows to win the Unified Tag Titles (**1/2)
They managed to throw in two full commercials before the match really got started. Teddy Long was at ringside to do nothing basically. The action was pretty good with Michaels going nuts on Punk and eliminating that team about 9 minutes in. That was sad to see because I wanted SES to be on both shows. Punk’s a great character and deserves that. Following their elimination, they ended up going to the working on HBK routine. Shawn looked a little off at times, but it wasn’t that bad. It was cool when he was about to do the kip up, but then changed his mind because last week when he did it Orton cradled him for the win. Little things like that make HBK the best. Michaels tagged in HHH, he hit his vintage knees, vintage spinebuster and vintage blah blah blah when HBK tagged himself back in. Hunter was like “what the hell?” and of course that led to Miz rolling Shawn up for the three count. Second straight week where Michaels lost on a rollup. Remember this on March 28 when he’s kicking out of the Tombstone. It’s okay, though. This means Miz gets to the hold the tag titles along with the US Title, so the guy is carrying three belts. Congrats to the Calgary Kid. You’ve come a long way from your mask wearing days. I guess we’ll see Showmiz on Smackdown now too. Good for DX dropping the tag titles they never really wanted or cared about in the first place. They just needed something to do before WrestleMania season.

The WWE NXT show might be a reality type of show in two weeks. Who knows? We’ll find out more soon.

Backstage, Big Show and The Miz celebrated. Show said Miz is a great partner because he treats him as an equal unlike Jericho did. You showed him, big guy. Miz said they’re going to get all the gold. Miz wanted them to be called The Miz-Show, but show said no, Showmiz like Showbiz. Keep in mind I was calling them Showmiz for a couple of weeks now. Not saying I told you so…but I guess I am. Thanks for reading, WWE. To be honest though, combining two names to make one isn’t that hard.

They went over the PPV lineup. Lawler said Rhodes is in the match, not Dibiase. Nice screw up there. The big rumor was Michaels vs. Batista is on the show too, but they didn’t address it at all. Next week, I guess.

They showed HBK watching backstage looking for somebody. Carlito and Alicia Fox were standing there chatting about her wedding planning career (or is that over?) as HBK continued to walk down the hall. Michaels found Teddy Long, saying he wanted to get traded to Smackdown…even though he has church group meetings on Tuesday nights that prevent him from really going. Wait, he didn’t say that part. Long asked him about DX, Shawn said: “I don’t care about DX!” Good for him. Long said he can’t change the Chamber match and he started to choke Long when Hunter the General Manager Avenger (he can avenge anything, people) showed up to say his obsession has gone too far. Shawn looked at him blankly: “My career is over.” He took a step back, then drilled Long with Sweet Chin Music in the hallway and the conveniently placed Alicia screamed in horror. Michaels walked off down the hallway as they tended to Long. This segment was great. Michaels losing his mind is a great story. Loved it.

We learned that Gail Kim vs. Maryse will be at the Elimination Chamber PPV. Good for them. Hopefully there’s a Women’s Title match at the PPV too since the Smackdown ladies are much better.

Gail Kim d. Jillian (SQUASH)
They didn’t even get intros. Gail hit her finisher for the win after about a minute with Maryse at ringside on commentary. She gets MAJOR PROPS for calling Michael Cole a “vintage nerd” again. Maryse spoke in French to Gail. Gail, who is Canadian and thus was required to learn French in school just like me, had no idea what she was saying. Maryse basically said that she smelled like garbage, was worth less than nothing and was a pitiful little girl. Then she shook her hand asking for a competitive match. I have a feeling their match is going to die at the PPV because the crowd is not into this feud.

They officially announced Ted DiBiase as the first inductee in this year’s Hall of Fame. So Koko B. Ware is better than him then? Right. Good for Ted. I loved the video package. That skit where he asked a kid to bounce a ball and he kicked it away at the end was always a classic. I remember seeing that live a few times. Kids were crying. It ruled.

They did a blatant Subway plug backstage with Edwards and Jared talking along with Santino sporting his Cobra shirt. This was all about plugging the $5 footlongs. Kofi showed up, suggested that Edwards book matches between the EC guys for next week and then they mentioned next week’s guest host is Jerry Springer. They showed clips of the Springer show. That show’s still on? That’s nice. Haven’t watched it since I became an adult. It was fun as a teen. Then they came back to the Subway dudes except the audience was all screwed up. This wasn’t a very good or funny segment. Can’t win ’em all.

Cody Rhodes d. Randy Orton (*1/4)
Yes, you read that right. Rhodes beat Orton in three minutes. Sheamus came in, distracted Orton and Cody won with the Rhodes Cross. Lawler hinted that maybe Rhodes was on Sheamus’ side in this whole thing. Post match, Sheamus gave the bicycle kick to KNOCK THE FUCK OUT~! out of Orton. Is this leading to an Orton face turn? Could happen. I’d rather he stay heel, though. I’m glad that it’s not obvious. I’m interested to see where it’s headed.

Hey, another video package showing Batista beating up Cena last week. You would think that this would mean Cena would be limping in the main event, right? Right? Um, no.

Backstage, Carl Edwards books three matches for next week. So what’s Springer going to do? Cause mayhem, I guess. The matches for next week are: Sheamus vs. Orton, Kingston vs. Dibiase and HHH vs. Cena. In other words, one match we saw at the Rumble, one match featuring two guys that have no chance to win the Chamber and one match between two guys that have wrestled a lot. I’m fine with promoting matches a week in advance. Nothing wrong with that.

The Cena/Dibiase match never happened. Cena simply came out and beat the shit out of Dibiase, putting him into the STF on the floor where Ted tapped out like a little bitch. Officials came out to tend to him. I’m disappointed, but not surprised, that Cena showed no ill effects from taking a powerbomb onto the ring steps last week. Can’t he limp at least a little or is SuperCena strong like bull all the time? Cena SMASH! I guess so.

Main Event Promo with Cena/Vince/Bret
Cena called out Batista saying he doesn’t care why he did what he did, but that he wants to fight. He said he’s not leaving until Batista shows up. Commercial time. We came back with Cena realizing that Vince put Batista up to the attack (the same attack that caused no pain to Cena) and that if Batista’s not going to come out then he wants to talk to Vince. Cue Crazy Vince with the strut. He had security with him. Cena said he would need a tank next time. Vince got in the ring, said he’s not scared of Cena and that he’s the alpha male. Vince cut a heel promo on Cena, saying he didn’t like him and that Batista probably doesn’t like him either…which is why he attacked him. Cena then cut his usual speech about not doing it for the money, but for the love and then busted out a Saints reference to get the cheap pop. Smart man. He said he talked to Bret last week and Bret told him he thinks he has one more match left him in. Cena went into his hype man routine, trying to get Vince to agree to the match. He goaded Vince into it leading Vince to say “YES! YES! YES!” to the match with Hart. Cena left saying Vince has one more person to tell.

Vince decided to throw up the video package from last week AGAIN saying that Bret was in Calgary watching the show. As the video stopped, right on cue was Bret Hart coming through the crowd. Great pop from the audience. The brawl with Vince looked a lot better this week, which was great to see. Bret came in there with lots of energy. The useless security tried to separate them, Bret knocked them down and Vince fled. When he got to the top of the ramp, Vince said there will be no WrestleMania match because Bret deserves to be screwed. With Vince out of the picture, Bret destroyed some of his stuff at the fireworks area and then at ringside. He didn’t talk. It was a re-incarnation of what happened in Montreal when he destroyed TV monitors. The show ended with Hart standing in-ring under the WM26 logo.

I liked the ending segment. Cena’s promo was really good. Vince was great, looking like 1998 Vince out there with all that energy. It’s fun when he heels it up with a good storyline to run with. I thought Bret’s attack was much better than last week. Very good segment to end the show. Obviously Bret vs. Vince is going to happen at Mania, but they decided to throw another twist on the story.

Three Stars of the Show
1. Shawn Michaels – He always seems to turn it up as we get closer to WrestleMania. This year is no exception.
2. John Cena – Such a good performer when he doesn’t have to bust out his Sesame Street style promos that I hate so much. Would be nice if he could sell an injury, though.
3. Christian – Finally he’s on one of the shows that matters. I hope he picks Smackdown, though.

7.5 out of 10
Last week: 7.5

I tip my hat (if I was wearing one) to WWE. This is third straight Raw I enjoyed and the second one in a row that I thought was very good. If you’ve been reading my work for a while now you know how much I hated the shows we got through December and most of January. They seemed to have no direction or focus. Now, with WrestleMania lurking they know the stories they want to tell. You could tell the writing is a lot more detailed and more sensible than some of the drivel we usually get.

The other thing I like? The guest hosts are a part of the show, but not the main focus. This is key. Too often they booked Raw so that the guest host came off as the biggest star. Not the last three weeks. They’re using the guest hosts a lot wiser. The result? Better shows. I’m absolutely fine with guest hosts going forward if they are used this way.

No KOOL-AID Mark Henry this week. I was wondering if we could get our thirst quenched. I guess not.

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  1. Mr.ken
    February 9, 2010 at 1:26 PM

    it was an ok show. Not great even with all the crap thrown at us this year im sure it felt amazing to some of you. Smackdowns still better. Im upset ses didnt get the belts. i would have loved them to be there for cheech and chong since they missed on snoop dogg. Maryse was lookin hottt. Why not call mizshow showmiz The big shiz. Thats awesome. I realy like how the miz is improving very quickly. It looks like he beefed up a little. One year ago i woulda called this guy a joke but hes realy steped up his game alot. Awesome promos and a new song. No mvp? Hmm… Can cena turn heel now. I know they dont have the face power to replace him but. Come on. Anyway shows should get better as wm comes closer. Hbk… Just do what you do. Put it all outhere. Earn those four months off.. Infact. Kick the midget next week.

  2. Mark
    February 9, 2010 at 1:47 PM

    i for one thought once bret hart go tin the ring he looked real sloppy, obviously he had a stroke so that explains it, but i really dont think he can go a whole 10 mins in any type of match( he almost lost to one of the speakers he was tearing out).

  3. February 9, 2010 at 1:52 PM

    Here’s what I don’t understand. If WWE is PG programming, why the hell is Jerry Springer a guest host? His show is FAR from PG and kids will have no idea who he is. It seems so odd to me. The same thing goes for when Cheech and Chong are hosts. Are pot references really PG?

    • Aaron
      February 9, 2010 at 2:27 PM

      I’ve made this same assessment. WWE tends to come off like a bad family film that tried to appeal to everyone and appeals to noone…. Hopefully he’ll stay out of the way mostly..

      Perhaps the Guest host gimmick is getting phased out.. the Rock rumors I hear are appealing at least. We shall see.

  4. Rated R
    February 9, 2010 at 1:53 PM

    Cena’s promo was really good? I don’t agree with that sorry. I had to skip all the shit he had to say because he’s so goddamn annoying as the super face of WWE always saying shit to get the crowd love him. He’s great on the mic, I agree, but what he says is so goddamn annoying, I just don’t want to listen to it. Plus adding that fact that he completely buried Ted and no-selled the beating. It was also annoying to hear him say “Like that’s gonna keep me down. I’m here right now” blah blah blah. He’s a nice guy, does a lot of charities, but he’s the most dull and annoying wrestler in the world. I don’t get why you’re always saying positive things about him.

    I didn’t like Vince stuff either. I’m not exactly sure why. His promos always seem forced and it’s annoying that he shows that he loves to be the heel. It doesn’t become believable because of that. It might also be that I’m sick of Mr McMahon character. You’re the meanest business man ever. Ok I get it.

    The rest of the show was good. It still doesn’t beat SmackDown! though. It’s probably that fact that most of the guys at SmackDown! are great performers. Having watched through all the shit episodes of Raw mounths back, has really made me sick of seeing most of guys there.

  5. jay
    February 9, 2010 at 2:05 PM

    Christian’s joke was lame cheap pop. Making fun of Sheamus’ tan is about as clever as picking on Abdullah the Butcher’s weight. Of course considering how much more Sheamus has achieved in his short career probably makes Christian jealous.

    Considering the ECW title is disappearing and Christian was brought on RAW to job to the Champ while he still has an ounce of respect and credibility before Vince burries him for good. In 6 months, Christian = The Duke of Dorchester.

    Jared is a bigger star than some past guest hosts.

    The WWE should have used the triple threat match to break up the tag titles. One belt to the SES. One to the Big Show and Miz. The two tag teams are strong enough to start a tag team division on both Raw and Smackdown. That way you can have the DX feud at WM.

    Depending on a person who retired 12 years ago and has had a stroke to sell WM is pretty sad. At least the Nasty Boys were world champions that never had a stroke.

    • Sam
      February 9, 2010 at 4:00 PM

      The nasty boys? Seriously? If you don’t like the stuff on Raw and you disagree with everything JC had to say, why even bother reading TJR and watching Raw? \

      • jay
        February 9, 2010 at 4:12 PM

        It is called playing the heel. It is fun to occasionally be antagonistic. I agree with JC most of the time.

        My favorite wrestlers have always been heels. I was rooting for Ric Flair over Dusty Rhodes at the Richmond Colleseum before the 4 Horseman were formed. (Back when half the audience thought it was real and it was dangerous to do so.)

        People like Jericho keep me watching. I just made the Nasty Boy point because I know this is a very pro Bret Hart blog. But looking at my last paragraph, I do have a position that has serious devil’s advocate potential.

      • JCITY617
        February 9, 2010 at 4:37 PM

        IT WAS FUNNY AS FUCK

  6. Daniel
    February 9, 2010 at 2:16 PM

    I will hand it to you, John; I wasn’t that impressed with the show (especially disappointed with SES not winning) but you certainly made it seem better.

  7. JCITY617
    February 9, 2010 at 2:16 PM

    IF EVERY ECW SUPERSTAR IS A FREE AGENT THEN GOLDUST SHOULD GO 2RAW AND FACE SHEAMUS FOR THE WWE TITLE CONSIDERING HE’S THE ONLY SUPERSTAR WITH A CLEAN WIN OVER SHEAMUS OR AM I SUPPOSED 2MAKE BELIEVE THAT NEVER HAPPEND?!? LOL…..I KNOW WWE IS CONDITIONING THE FANS 2WANT 2SEE HBK VS UNDERTAKER 2 BUT I RATHA SHAWN MICHAELS B SOMEWHAT INVOLVED IN THE BRET HART ANGLE……JERRY SPRINGER WOULD HAVE BEEN AWESOME AS A HOST IN THE ATTITUDE ERA BACK WHEN HIS SHOW WAS IN ITS PRIME I DONT SEE HIM HAVING MUCH OF A IMPACT CONSIDERING THE PG RATING UNLESS HE DOES THE SPRINGER SHOW LIKE THEY DID THE PRICE IS RAW 2BAD JERICHO WONT B THERE…………..I WOULD SOOOOO GIVE UP THE REALWORLD/ROADRULES CHALLENGE 2 IF I CAN HOLD 3 WWE TITLES AT THE SAME TIME GOOOOOOOOOOOO MIZ HIS PUSH HAS REALLY BEEN AWESOME……….TEDDY LONG MIGHT JUST GIVE HBK THE UNDERTAKER AS HIS WAY OF REVENGE AT LEAST THATS WHAT IM GUESSING…………………IT SEEMED AS IF SHEAMUS AND CODY RHODES ARE ON THE SAME PAGE UNTIL CODY GRABBED THE PLASTIC COSCO CHAIR BUT I STILL THINK THERES SOMETHING MORE THAN MEETS THE EYE WITH THOSE 2………ITS A GOOD THING I DONT BET ON WRESTLING CUZ I WOULD HAVE LOST THINKING CM PUNK AND GALLOWS WERE GOING TO GET THE TITLES BUT ON THE OTHER HAND ITS GOOD 2SEE THE BIGSHOW NOT GET LOST IN THE MIDCARD SHUFFLE LIKE HE’S BEEN KNOWN 2DO VARIOUS TIMES IN HIS WWE CAREER…………..VINCE IS SUCH A PUSSIFIED HEEL BRET HART CAN DO NO WRONG EVEN IF HIS ATTITUDE THUS FAR HAS BEEN ANYTHING BUT PG, FIRST HE SAYS ASS 3TIMES LAST WEEK WHICH WAS GREAT AND THIS WEEK HE VANDALIZED THE SET WHICH WAS AWESOME MAKES ME WONDER HOW IMPACTFUL OF A CAREER HE WOULD HAVE HAD IF HE STAYED IN WWE FOR ALL OF THE ATTITUDE ERA……………RAW HAS STEPPED IT UP THE LAST FEW WEEKS I JUST HOPE THEY KEEP THE MOMENTUM GOING WAAAAAAAAAAY PAST WRESTLEMANIA

  8. Rated R
    February 9, 2010 at 2:23 PM

    Oh and I forget to mention how insulting it is that you’ve given Cena the number two spot in your three stars of the show and have Christian at third. Just because Super Cena gets more air time and is supposed to be taken as the main focus of the show, doesn’t mean shit. You should remove Cena and have Miz/Show instead.

    • jay
      February 9, 2010 at 3:00 PM

      Good Catch R:

      How can Miz and Show not get a star when they won 2 World Tag Team Championships?

      HBK gets a star for a sloppy match and losing 2 World Tag Team Championships.

      Christian gets a star for a really lame joke and jobbing to a Transition Champion. His title will be inactive in a week. Can you tell me who the current NWA Champion is? That person will have more credibility than Christian in 2 weeks. In six months he will be begging for a feud with Hornswoggle.

      Cena gets one for a lifetime achievement as a good performer?

      How about a little objectivity?

      • February 9, 2010 at 3:05 PM

        The tag match was all about HBK. Show barely did anything. Miz didn’t do much. Shawn carried it. Also, winning a belt does not make you star. If the belts meant something it would. DX didn’t give a shit about being tag champs, never put the belts over as being important to them. Losing them means nothing.

        I like Christian. I think he’s one of the five best performers in the company and it’s fucking great to see him not on ECW for a change. That’s why he’s in.

        I thought Cena did a good promo. And it was needed.

        Furthermore, I don’t understand how there are complaints about my stars when in the past I’ve given them to people for clearly ridiculous reasons.

        On 1/18 I gave “Randy Savage” a star when King accidentally said his name and also “Let’s hear it for friendship!” got a star too.

        • jay
          February 9, 2010 at 3:39 PM

          If you really like Christian, you should be rooting for him to stay on the third brand as Champion helping to develop young wrestlers. Vince does not see him as a mid card talent let alone a main eventer. He is following his normal game plan. Put over talent that is valued while squeezing every ounce of credibility of what he considers to be outsiders or people who have no future value. (Hell, look at what he did to ECW.)

          I actually have become a little bit fond of Christian since he went to TNA. He and Edge used to be 2 of my least favorites because they seemed like real life pussies who received pushes because Vince thought that they were counter culture and appealing to young kids. (Edge has grown on me the past 2 years. I blame Vicki Guererro.)

          I disagree regarding the Tag Championship. A World Title Change needs a star. To not recognize this is a slap in the face to everyone who held the belts. There is nothing wrong with a 3rd star while highlighting other aspects of the show. Just because Vince believes tag team wrestling is dead doesn’t mean you should sink to his level or follow his lead.

          Vince finally has an exciting tag division if he were to highlight it. Miz & Show, Punk & Gallows, DX, Legacy, Crime Tyme, the Harts, Ezequiel & Regal. He could match up several wrestlers with partners….Jericho, Hardy, Edge, Christian, Kane, Chavo, and many others. The WWE has the talent to put tag teams back in prime time on both shows. (Vince won’t do it because it is cheaper to pay 1 person than 2 people. That is why tag wrestling died.)

          You really can’t give credit for Christian’s joke because it was so predictable. He should have prefaced the joke with “You can’t fool the Good People of Louisiana home of the Superbowl Champion New Orleans Saints…______” It would be the only way to get an easier pop.

          Don’t mind me, I like to play a heel when work pisses me off. Since 9 out of 10 people kiss your butt on your blog, it is fun to see you get an occasional antagonistic comment. Besides, at least 7 out of 10 of my occasional comments here agree with your position or put you or your viewpoint over.

          • Lou
            February 9, 2010 at 4:11 PM

            here’s a good idea, why don’t you go write your own column Jay and you can give stars to whoever the hell you want

            • Lou
              February 9, 2010 at 4:12 PM

              but you wont do that will you Jay because it’s all about the MONEY

              • jay
                February 9, 2010 at 4:18 PM

                lol

            • jay
              February 9, 2010 at 4:16 PM

              Why? Getting a rise out of you is far more entertaining. But if John doesn’t want my $.02 cents, all he has to do is say the word and I would follow another blog. I just happen to like this one.

              • Lou
                February 9, 2010 at 4:29 PM

                i was trying to do my own heel turn but it didn’t work out that well obviously. I thought the but it’s all about the MONEY thing would convey my sarcasm but alas the internet wins again

                • jay
                  February 9, 2010 at 4:33 PM

                  I caught it and chuckled.

      • JCITY617
        February 9, 2010 at 3:19 PM

        JOHN CENA AND SHAWN MICHAELS ARE HELPING ANGLES MOVE ALONG 2SET UP WRESTLEMANIA…..IN THE GRAND SCHEME OF THINGS THEY DID MORE WITH PROMOS AND BACKSTAGE SEGMENTS THAN MIZSHOW DID BY WINNING THE TITLES……………ITS BIGGER THAN IN THE RAW MOMENT CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT IS CRUCIAL 2THE SUCESS OF RAW AND WRESTLEMANIA IN THE LONGRUN AND THATS WHAT A TRUE STAR DOES IS MOVE THE PRODUCT FORWARD……….

  9. Aaron
    February 9, 2010 at 2:32 PM

    The Cena bashing has begun! Take that John Canton-James..

    Look, I HATE the Super Cena charcter as well, but his promo was solid. He cheap popped like the he alwasy does.. we’re tired of Super Cena, but he carried the angle well at the end. He’s great on the mic, we all have to realize that. He’s not going to sell because noone is stressing him backstage to sell. Period. If someone was in his ear saying sell the back, he’d sell it. Noone’s pushing it, and we get the illusion of Invicinble Cena.

    I’m tired of the character too, but he was a star of the show.

    Also, Christian’s line about being born without last names.. nice. The tan? Yeah, cheap rip on Shameus now.

    • Oxide
      February 10, 2010 at 1:48 AM

      “Also, Christian’s line about being born without last names.. nice. The tan? Yeah, cheap rip on Shameus now.”

      At least he mentioned Sheamus’ hair in that joke. Haven’t heard anyone mention that yet.
      I like Sheamus’ hair though. ^_^

  10. Chris
    February 9, 2010 at 2:32 PM

    “They showed clips of the Springer show. That show’s still on? That’s nice. Haven’t watched it since I became an adult. It was fun as a teen.”

    Isn’t that what most people say about wrestling? I hear it all the time from people. It’s so annoying!

  11. Yaz
    February 9, 2010 at 2:34 PM

    Wow… You’re taking mad heat today John. Geez. I thought it was an alright show – It was def. better than those of January and late-last year, no denying that. Am I the only one who doesn’t really mind Cena? It seems like most people just hate him for the sake of hating him these days. Kind of lame.

    • Aaron
      February 9, 2010 at 3:55 PM

      No Yaz, that was sooooooo 2008.. people hate John Cena know becuase there’s a legit reason to hate him. (And again, I think it’s more his character and gimmick and less the man.)

      I can appreciate Cena’s work, appreciate his mic skills and at the same time, hate what he has to sya, and roll my eyes at the no selling.. ahem.. CONSISTANT no selling. And selling does not just consist of acting hurt after a punch. It’s selling ana angle (I.E., not oo many powerbomb on steel step bumps take place these days in WWE, selling it would have been a good idea I think.. but is that more John Cena, or more the wirting team not stressing the point of selling the injury?)

  12. Rated R
    February 9, 2010 at 2:42 PM

    Nobody is stressing him? Can’t the guy work on himself a little? I’m sure he loves his character and every shit that he does. I really want to like Cena, I really do. But his promos was so annoying. NEVER BACK DOWN NEVER GIVE UP NOTHINGS GONNA STOP ME. fuck off. I liked the show until the ending with that shitty promo.

    • Yaz
      February 9, 2010 at 2:57 PM

      I think there is a difference between a shitty promo and thinking the content within a promo is shitty… I mean, I think Cena conveyed what he was supposed to and I think it was a decent promo… It sounds to me like you have a problem with the content of his promo – not so much the promo it self. Maybe you think I’m reaching – that’s just what it sounds like to me.

  13. Rated R
    February 9, 2010 at 2:51 PM

    I hope this doesn’t come off as insulting John C btw. I appreciate everything he says and pretty much agree with the guy all the time. I just have an different opinion of Cena than he does and I don’t understand how people can bear seeing the guy. I cringe at everything he says.

  14. February 9, 2010 at 2:53 PM

    It’s cool. Not insulted at all. I’m going through compiling Commentfest right now. I’ll try to respond to the comments directly. I always read the comments, but don’t always have time to respond. I’ll definitely make that effort.

  15. Rated R
    February 9, 2010 at 3:09 PM

    @Yaz. If you read my first comment, I said that Cena is good on the mic. It’s obvious that I’m talking about the content of his promo and all the other ones he has made. What he says and how he says it makes it a shitty promo to me. Preaching to the fans and talking as if you’re talking to a kid doesn’t make a good promo regardless of having good mic skills.

    • JCITY617
      February 9, 2010 at 3:27 PM

      HE IS TALKIN TO THE KIDS…. NEVER GIVE UP ETC IS GOOD MORALS FOR KIDS 2LOOK UP 2…… BEING A POSITIVE ROLEMODEL IN A PROGRAM THAT STIMULATES VIOLENCE MIGHT B A CATCH 22 BUT ITS BEEN WORKIN FOR CENA FOR THE LAST 6YRS….I MUST ADMIT I PREFER CENA AS A HEEL BUT IN THE MIST OF PEOPLE BEATING EACH OTHER UP YOU DO HAVE 2 REMIND YOUNG IMPRESIONABLE FANS THAT THERES A SILVER LININ AND A MESSAGE THAT IF YOU NEVER GIVE UP AND FIGHT FOR WHAT U BELIEVE IN YOU 2 CAN B A CHAMPION AT WHATEVER YOU DO AND THATS THE MAIN REASON I THINK JOHN CENA IS BOOKED AS AN UNSTOPABLE FORCE SOMEBODY HAS 2 STOP THE BADGUYS IN WRESTLING AND SOCIETY IN GENERAL

      • Aaron
        February 9, 2010 at 4:00 PM

        I read this trm, (sidebar to wrestling, but more in society in general). Many of us fall in the “Generation X” or “Generation Y” agae as it has been labeled.

        The tem I read that I like, is the next generation (kids that are 12 and younger) are the “Trophy Generation”. The generation where “everyone gets a trophy”. Winning and losing is blurred, we just want participation and for everyone to “get along and have fun”.

        Fuck that. winning and losing teaches morals. Never back down, yadda yadda.. in the real world if none of us “never backed down” we’d be out of jobs. Becuase in the real world, the majority of us have to take shit ona daily basis becuase it’s part of life.

        God, I was born a heel… ;)

        • JCITY617
          February 9, 2010 at 4:20 PM

          YOUR SPEAKIN AS DA SMART MARK ADULT DAT YOU ARE AND NOT SEEING THINGS THREW THE EYES OF AN IMPRESIONABLE 9-17YROLD WRESTLING FAN….MOST WHO DONT READ THE BLOGS SPOILERS AND ARENT SMART 2 THE BIZNEZ LIKE MOST OF US HERE ARE THEREFORE THEY SEE AS ITS PRESENTED 2 THEM NOT AS A GIMMICK OR ANGLE……….IF CENA WASNT SELLING AS MUCH MERCHINDISE AS HE HAS THEN WE WOULD HAVE SEEN HIS CHARACTER TAKE A DIFFERENT DIRECTION BUT THE FACT THAT HE SELLS A SHITLOAD OF ITEMS 2 A YOUNGER DEMOGRAPHIC ALL THE FEEDBACK VINCE NEEDS 2 STAY PG……………DONT WORRY THOUGH THE ATTITUDE ERA WILL RETURN ONE DAY JUST NOT ANYTIME SOON

  16. MIchael
    February 9, 2010 at 3:09 PM

    Was definitely one of the better Raw’s than the one’s we got over the last year, but a step back comparing to the last two shows. Maryse look absolutely hot tonight, I would have given her a star instead of Super(not selling)Cena. ;)

  17. Rated R
    February 9, 2010 at 3:39 PM

    Frist of all, stop yelling JCITY (remove the caps :P). Seconddly, I get what you’re saying. It’s another thing that pisses me off. I know they make good money of being PG but seriously… wrestling should be for adults only in my opinion.

    also: word MIchaels. I’m not even a guy and to me Maryse > John Cena

    I’m not a Cena hater honestly. When he does something good, I point it out how good it was. I also think he can be funny even though people say his gay jokes are lame. I guess I’m a little immature lol. I also appreciate that he can have good matches a lot of times.. unlike a guy like Batista who has to be carried to do well.

    • JCITY617
      February 9, 2010 at 3:56 PM

      I WASNT AWARE YOU CAN HAVE THE ABILITY 2 “YELL” IN WRITTEN FORM SEEMS LIKE MORE PPL ARE INFACTUATED WITH MY CAPS THAN THEY ARE WITH WHAT IM ACTUALLY SAYING…….JESUS*TITTYFUCKIN*CHRIST IT AINT DAT SERIOUS (IF THIS WAS WWE IT WOULD B MY GIMMICK AND THE CAPLOCK SUBMISSION WILL MAKE U ALL TAPOUT LOL)…………….ANYWAYS WRESTLING HAS ALWAYS HAD ALOT OF CHILDREN AS FANS THINK BACK 2 WHEN U 1ST STARTED WATCHIN I WAS A KID AND THATS HOW ME AND MY FATHER BONDED……….IF IT WASNT FOR THE KIDS WWE WOULD BE BANKRUPT WHO WANTS WWE KIDS MAGAZINE, ACTION FIGURES, VIDEOGAMES ETC ITS THE KIDS…………..(OR FANATICAL ADULTS BUT I DIGRESS LOL)

    • jay
      February 9, 2010 at 4:02 PM

      You may be on to something, R. Give Cena either the IC or US belt. Don’t change the character. Let him defend on both shows. Book his ppv match anywhere on the card, even over the World Champ, if the feud merits it. On tv, put his match and promos in the first hour. Cena essentially becomes the kids champ and the cartoon character Vince has loved since the Hulkster.

      Make the World more geared toward those 12 and over. Keep the cartoons out of the World title picture. Keep the other secondary belt as a stepping stone. Or heck keep the ECW belt for a stepping stone belt for both shows. A Cena belt for the kiddies and the two world championships. Keep the Cena belt almost exclusively on faces. It works and would allow a move closer to pg13 for the second hours of Raw and Smackdown.

      • Aaron
        February 9, 2010 at 4:06 PM

        Hence my point about the show being on so late… How can 8 year olds watch Raw live if it’s going off at 11? WWE just seems so conflicted in who it wants to appeal to and it’s my biggest arguement.

        Can someone please tell Linda to go away? Stop running for ongres, get off the school board, etc? Ever since then, this show has gone downhill. Mind you, the last three weeks have at least been entertaining.

        • jay
          February 9, 2010 at 5:20 PM

          Vince could buy the Universal Heavyweight Championship from WWC owner Carlos Colon, (Carlito & Primo’s dad), and give it to Cena as a CoEqual championship to the Raw & Smackdown belts. Give it to Cena or the Cartoon character de jour. and you have just created a million marketing possibilites. Have the UHC defend on both shows and keep the Raw and Smackdown belts separate so they remain special. You get a cartoon attraction and a real wrestling attraction on every show to please everyone.

          • Aaron
            February 9, 2010 at 5:33 PM

            Fuck that, I’d still bitch. :)

            Too difficult to please everyone.. but kids still watched during the attitude era, right? Meh..

      • JCITY617
        February 9, 2010 at 4:09 PM

        WHILE WERE BOOKING THINGS THAT WILL NEVER HAPPEN WHY DOESNT SHAWN MICHAELS COMPLETLY SNAP LOSE ALL FAITH IN GOD GO 2 NXT IN 2WEEKS AND START A SCIENTOLOGY CRUSADE SINCE DAT IS WHAT SYFY EXECUTIVES WOULD LOVE 2 SEE LOL *NO SHOTS*

        • jay
          February 9, 2010 at 4:31 PM

          However, a CM Punk vs. HBK feud with Christianity vs. the Straight Edge Lifestyle is an origional feud. Would Vince back God it the battle for the Souls of the SES? Would the public buy it? How would Vince handle it? This intrigues me, but I am sure Vince would probably end up alienating Christians everywhere.

          • JCITY617
            February 9, 2010 at 4:34 PM

            GOD FORFEITED 2 VINCE BEFORE BACK WHEN HE HAD BEEF WITH HBK LOL

    • Lou
      February 9, 2010 at 4:15 PM

      rated R, talking in all caps is his gimmick.

      • JCITY617
        February 9, 2010 at 4:26 PM

        IM SO OVER I DONT NEED A GIMMICK LOL

  18. Lou
    February 9, 2010 at 3:46 PM

    sometimes I think back to watching The Miz on Real World and stuff and I’m like damn this kid has come a long way. Very cool to see him holding 3 belts right now.

  19. Rated R
    February 9, 2010 at 4:06 PM

    Exactly why he should’ve gotten a star. He holds 3 titles. Miz is money on the stick. John C needs to appreciate him more to be honest.

  20. Anonymous
    February 9, 2010 at 4:39 PM

    Haven’t seen the show yet but was it the same Jared who gets and entire South Park episode mocking him for having aides?

    • Aaron
      February 9, 2010 at 4:49 PM

      Haha… nice SP reference. And good episode.

    • Lou
      February 9, 2010 at 7:56 PM

      jared has aides!

  21. Brian W.
    February 9, 2010 at 7:00 PM

    I want HBK saying “I DON”T CARE ABOUT DX!” as my ringtone. The man spews gold from his mouth.

    But I must take issue with Shawn’s allegation that Triple H only thinks of himself…shocking!! To even insinuate that the most unselfish main eventer in WWE history (outside of Saint Hulk Hogan) who just happens to boink the boss’ daughter on a regular basis is selfish..Outrageous and Totally Unfounded!! I call BULLSHIT on you, Mr. Michaels!!

    I bid you good day, sir.

    • jay
      February 9, 2010 at 7:39 PM

      Good call… The Selfishness Hierarchy Goes……

      1. St. Hogan

      2. Pope Hunter of Hearst-Helmsley

      3. The selfishness of the rest of humanity

  22. Anonymous
    February 9, 2010 at 10:25 PM

    I agree with the Miz love so far, he’s improved immensely both in the ring and on the mike. I feel bad for SES though they are very deserving.

    No matter the Cena love or hate, he still needs to sell spots in the ring and beatings. Wrestlers are also ‘actors’ and you gotta show that the beatings are ‘real.’ Jericho had a bruise on Smackdown (Fri) when he got punched by Tyson (Mon).
    Also, Cena could become heel as suggested if they really push Christian and if he goes to Raw.

  23. February 9, 2010 at 10:26 PM

    I agree with the Miz love so far, he’s improved immensely both in the ring and on the mike. I feel bad for SES though they are very deserving.

    No matter the Cena love or hate, he still needs to sell spots in the ring and beatings. Wrestlers are also ‘actors’ and you gotta show that the beatings are ‘real.’ Jericho had a bruise on Smackdown (Fri) when he got punched by Tyson (Mon). Also, Cena could become heel as suggested if they really push Christian and if he goes to Raw.

  24. I am the widowmaker
    February 9, 2010 at 11:36 PM

    Face star awards for the night

    Rated R, I’ll give you a No1 star for keeping it real
    Jay can have No 2 for his/her’s analytical viewpoint
    and CAPS LOCK BOY can have No 3 for saying some interesting things, but equally being annoying.

    John Canton for heel award simply because of HHH getting more stick than Cena the no selling,hard working,Charity participating wrestler(who lacks wrestling ability and credibility) and for not acknowledging The MIZ. Not a HHH fan, but his tired,diminshing moveset is still streets ahead of the charity wrestler and his promo on SD last week to the SES echoed of the attitude era. More plz.

  25. Mike
    February 10, 2010 at 7:46 AM

    How we feel about Cena….is most likely the same way adults felt about Hogan in the 80s (when myself and other late 20s/early 30 year olds loved the guy). Cena is what he is–he appeals to the young kid demographic. He’s the good guy babyface that “fights the good fight”, his character is very similar to what Hogan’s was in that era. Cena’s WWE’s cash cow–he sells much more merchandise then anyone–again much like Hogan did in the 80s. He serves his purpose. I dont really care for him, although I dont hate him as much as others do. I understand why he’s there….as long as he keeps his promos serious (and doesnt resort to the childish jokes) I can tolerate him.

  26. Rated R
    February 10, 2010 at 9:15 AM

    Well the thing is Mike, Hogan was.. you could say “the original” superman like. It wasn’t that bad then. It isn’t anything special now when Cena is portraying the same character. Furthermore, the hulk character was supposed to heroic and unstoppable. Cena has just been pushed down our throats just because his merchandise is selling the most.

    And thanks I am the windowmake. I always tell it like it is. And I agree. One move that especially pisses me off from Triple H is his high knee move. It’s so fucking obvious when it happens and it doesn’t go a match without it.

  27. Scoot
    February 10, 2010 at 9:54 AM

    I called the “ShowMiz’ name! Probably the only thing I’ll ever get right!

  28. Mike
    February 10, 2010 at 8:33 PM

    Rated R…you make fair points. Unfortunately with the PG crap, and WWE targeting themselves more towards the kids/young teen crowd…Cena’s their guy. Its something we’ll have to suffer thru until we go full circle and TV-14 returns at some point in the future (and it will..this business is very cyclical). Hey look at the bright side–at least he’s gonna be out of the title picture for awhile after the Chamber PPV.

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